Comments on: Lima, Peru, 1944 http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/ All you could ever want to know about Peru Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:03:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: It's complicated http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-67325 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 04:04:28 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-67325 Yes, the consequences of explosive population growth can be felt with all five senses, I’m not going to pretend like it doesn’t bother me and I probably curse at least every other day at the lack of planning and overall disorder and conchudo behavior (in all colors). But … I try to imagine what it must have felt like for those first people who made the move from the mountain areas to Lima (and those that still arrive now). So overwhelming. So much risk and potential for exploitation. I’m sure those shanty towns are no picnic to live in, either. I always wondered why they didn’t stay in the mountains, and at least this essay, despite the obvious bias, explained some of the impetus for the rural to urban domestic migration. And the revulsion of the upperclass by the “invasion” reminds me now of anti-immigration Americans that disdain migrants. It’s like that 45% majority is considered foreign in their own country (perhaps they feel that way too, at least in the early assimilation process). Is it right, is it wrong, I don’t know. It makes me feel sad, but it is how it is.

]]> By: Lomas de Lúcumo – Green Lima | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-46231 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:08:14 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-46231 […] of Villa El Salvador and Villa María, two new Lima districts created by the mass influx of migrants to Lima, had by the 1990s encroached on a number of hill-side green pastures. As Villa María spread south […]

]]> By: ZZaslo http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-32091 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:42:13 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-32091 I disagree with your assertion, there is a difference between being a racist and just expressing a strong opinion about some particular facts-independently if the opinion at issue is or not correct.
I don’t think there is a disagreement in the fact that Lima City lacked a development plan since the end of the 60’s; moreover, the invasion of land in areas surrounding the city has being going on at least for over half of a century now. Invasion of land can be use to describe how some people acquire land by force not by law. I think that is how the author of this post use this term.
I just to live in one of those areas, and I can tell you from my experience that instead of being communities organized since day one, they are communities “organized” according to the interest of the land traffickers only.
It is possible to disagree with anyone, but please don’t go into personal attacks, that doesn’t add anything constructive to any discussion, or gives you any more leverage. Thank you

]]> By: california cauliflower http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-25787 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:44:14 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-25787 Dude, thanks for the videos….but your comments stain everything saying that you are a racist.

]]> By: Video: Glimpses of Peru, 1937 | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-20268 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:03:15 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-20268 […] Lima in 1944, in a documentary by the US State Department […]

]]> By: Makatampu | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-16743 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:28:23 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-16743 […] Lima grew, the rural space between the cities of Callao and Lima shrunk – and what was an old […]

]]> By: Lima of yesteryear – 1920s to 1970s | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-16702 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:15:54 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-16702 […] the start of the period of mass migration to Lima that stretched the city to its limits, up until the economic collapse of the first Garcia […]

]]> By: Lima city districts at war over boundaries | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-16677 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:36:21 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-16677 […] fight between Magdalena and San Isidro is one of FOURTY in Lima. Its not surprising considering how fast the city grew, with towns growing and being over run by the sprawling metropolis in just a few decades and in a […]

]]> By: Colonial jewel in Peru’s capital to be restored with UN help | ...en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-16596 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:16:48 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-16596 […] century, Lima’s downtown was progressively abandoned by affluent landlords. Houses were left to poor migrants paying very low rent, but receiving no infrastructure maintenance nor formal contract. Sanitation […]

]]> By: Rachel http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-6268 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:26:44 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-6268 It’s really a shame that Lima went from “Modern” to “Developing.” I can’t even say that it “regressed,” b/c the indigenous inhabitants were very well organized throughout the millennia before the Spaniards arrived.

My husband’s grandfather (80+yrs old) still vividly remembers this by-gone era of the 1930’s and 40’s.

From what I have been told is that the agrarian reform of the 1970’s commenced the decline of Lima and that the uncontrolled growth was exasperated by citizens fleeing the terrorists in the 80’s.

As far as traffic is concerned that is the fault of Fujimori who did not regulate transportation when he allowed the Japanese to flood the market with their combis and taxis.

I certainly don’t believe that it was pure “economics” that pushed Peruvians into the capital.

The Peruvian government can alleviate the overcrowding in Lima by decentralizing, providing incentives to companies to locate to other major cities, and overhaul their transportation infrastructure in addition to ENFORCING laws and regulations.

]]> By: » Al Jazeera’s take on Lima Street Food [Featured] …en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-5567 Wed, 27 May 2009 20:47:08 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-5567 […] posts featured in this video: Magdalena Market The Potato Chuño Cevichería Sonia Pisco Sour Chifa Arrival to the cities of Andean immigrants Shining Path violence, Peru’s dark recent history Lima’s other side (shanty […]

]]> By: » Colonial Callao …en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-5328 Thu, 21 May 2009 22:03:30 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-5328 […] Lima grew exponentially in the 20th century, Lima and Callao merged and blended together as a single urban area. It was […]

]]> By: Swine flu in Cusco? « Life in Peru http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-4632 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:55:07 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-4632 […] population) and Lima (est. 7-9 million population). Stuart has done a great job describing the mass migration to Lima over the past several decades. I’ve never been a big fan of mega-cities, and an […]

]]> By: » Huaca Huantille …en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-4598 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:52:49 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-4598 […] Lima’s growth boomed, the rural town of Magdalena del Mar became part of a densely populated city, and the Huaca […]

]]> By: Cesar Joaquin http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-1813 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:23:11 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-1813 I feel this post brings into light the blatant xenophobia of the white Peruvian elite. Indigenous Peruvians of the Andes did not “invade” their own country! That is a very divisive term! The agriculture industry could not sustain itself in the a “free market” so many poor farmers fled to the big city instead of going hungry. This post did not discuss the mismanagement of the economy by the so-called educated class which caused this modern phenomenon. In fact many countries (from China to the U.S.) have had massive migration to urban centers. What is so wrong with trying to give your family a better life? Unfortunately the central government never cared to plan appropriately for all these new Limenos. Look at New York City today it has grown into a metropolis which embraces all people of all ethnic backgrounds. I am a Peruvian man of color and I resent that all the social-ills of Lima are being blamed on the poor indigenous community. I am sure the white upper class at one point wanted to hang a sign at the city gates saying “Whites Only”.

]]> By: Charles C Stirk Jr http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:30:05 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-211 Thanks for the post it is truly fascinating how Lima has changed even since the early 1990s … & the amount of change since the 1940 is mind boggling ..

The thing that all ways fascinated me about Peru specifically Lima is the ability of for lack of a better word slums or squatter community to develop into distinctive districts with municipal services etc … with plazas , parks etc

I realise that this transformation can not simply be spontaneous or organic & there is loads of community & municipal organisation behind he transformation …

Coming from a perspective of the United States , It sure feels that the average migrant to Lima , a campesino from the central Andes could teach a thing or too to regional & urban planing boards in the States …

Also of note “The Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs was penetrated by Soviet intelligence during World War II.

]]> By: » Lima’s other side …en Perú - Travel Culture History News http://enperublog.com/2008/02/23/lima-peru-1944/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:52:45 +0000 http://enperublog.com/?p=889#comment-141 […] the videos of Lima in 1944 from this previous post I explained how explosive growth in the decades that followed ruined Lima’s plans of steady […]

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