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		<title>By: Timothy Alvarez</title>
		<link>http://enperublog.com/2008/08/30/el-hueco-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-52085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Alvarez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oye plebe,que tal todo el mundo.
I am mexican but i live in Europe and the US,last year in Peru i got nutso when i saw at every stand in EL HUECO(LIMA) that was selling porn DVD&#039;s some crazy tapes: 12,13,14 years old girls tapes.This is called child porn according to any law including peruvian.It also breaks any limits the fact that EL HUECO is located right in front the Superior Court of Justice.I like Lima and peruvians are ,in general lines the greates folks on earth,but stuff like that....i mean is everywhere not only in EL HUECO,but acroos the block,Chinese District stands,and all .
Can somebody explain that to me,how is it possible to have stuff like that availble to get freelly in Lima....i really can&#039;t figure out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oye plebe,que tal todo el mundo.<br />
I am mexican but i live in Europe and the US,last year in Peru i got nutso when i saw at every stand in EL HUECO(LIMA) that was selling porn DVD&#8217;s some crazy tapes: 12,13,14 years old girls tapes.This is called child porn according to any law including peruvian.It also breaks any limits the fact that EL HUECO is located right in front the Superior Court of Justice.I like Lima and peruvians are ,in general lines the greates folks on earth,but stuff like that&#8230;.i mean is everywhere not only in EL HUECO,but acroos the block,Chinese District stands,and all .<br />
Can somebody explain that to me,how is it possible to have stuff like that availble to get freelly in Lima&#8230;.i really can&#8217;t figure out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory House</title>
		<link>http://enperublog.com/2008/08/30/el-hueco-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-5551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory House]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Peruviaan and I think that &quot;El Hueco&quot; is so great, many things are cheaper than in other places, especially the DVDS.

El hueco FTW!

Bye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Peruviaan and I think that &#8220;El Hueco&#8221; is so great, many things are cheaper than in other places, especially the DVDS.</p>
<p>El hueco FTW!</p>
<p>Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Recent Links Tagged With "informal" - JabberTags</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] public links &gt;&gt; informal   Release - The Gastown drive-in Saved by gudgeon on Tue 06-1-2009   en Perú : El Hueco - The Hole Saved by yigalc on Fri 26-12-2008   NSA conducts informal poll Saved by jlw6913699 on Sat [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] public links &gt;&gt; informal   Release &#8211; The Gastown drive-in Saved by gudgeon on Tue 06-1-2009   en Perú : El Hueco &#8211; The Hole Saved by yigalc on Fri 26-12-2008   NSA conducts informal poll Saved by jlw6913699 on Sat [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bubble boi</title>
		<link>http://enperublog.com/2008/08/30/el-hueco-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bubble boi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[im just a kid..so..yeah..i have a history project im doing on Peru and i wouldn&#039;t mind some insight on their economy over there =] (i need a good grade..and any kind of help is needed)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im just a kid..so..yeah..i have a history project im doing on Peru and i wouldn&#8217;t mind some insight on their economy over there =] (i need a good grade..and any kind of help is needed)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Starrs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart Starrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mario, you bring up some important points, points that I am very much in agreement with - particularly with struggling Peruvian artists and producers.
I definitely don&#039;t condone criminal gangs or illegal activity.

But I also feel that it is important to consider some priorities. If piracy was wiped out in Peru, people like you and I in Lima could probably afford $10 for a official DVD, for example. But in a city where most people earn a few dollars a day, and where outside the city the vast majority of people live in mud homes, it is little wonder that piracy exists and that many thousands of quite innocent providers for their families find that selling fake DVDs is the only way to put food on the table. If your young children will have to live on the street if you don&#039;t sell a DVD where some of the proceeds might go to criminals - would you care?

The best way to help cut out piracy and help producers of art is probably by reducing the stark inequality between rich and poor in Peru. Then, as you said, a civilized society can be built free if piracy, criminal gangs etc.

I hope to see a future in Peru where no-one buys pirate DVDs, because the family from the cerros in Ate Vitarte decide to take a family trip to the new multiplex cinema, then go for some Pollo a la Brasa. Today though, at least for now, I&#039;d prefer to see the head of that family sell pirate DVDs rather than see his children malnourished and not get the chance to. Hopefully as the economy goes, we&#039;ll both get the future we want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mario, you bring up some important points, points that I am very much in agreement with &#8211; particularly with struggling Peruvian artists and producers.<br />
I definitely don&#8217;t condone criminal gangs or illegal activity.</p>
<p>But I also feel that it is important to consider some priorities. If piracy was wiped out in Peru, people like you and I in Lima could probably afford $10 for a official DVD, for example. But in a city where most people earn a few dollars a day, and where outside the city the vast majority of people live in mud homes, it is little wonder that piracy exists and that many thousands of quite innocent providers for their families find that selling fake DVDs is the only way to put food on the table. If your young children will have to live on the street if you don&#8217;t sell a DVD where some of the proceeds might go to criminals &#8211; would you care?</p>
<p>The best way to help cut out piracy and help producers of art is probably by reducing the stark inequality between rich and poor in Peru. Then, as you said, a civilized society can be built free if piracy, criminal gangs etc.</p>
<p>I hope to see a future in Peru where no-one buys pirate DVDs, because the family from the cerros in Ate Vitarte decide to take a family trip to the new multiplex cinema, then go for some Pollo a la Brasa. Today though, at least for now, I&#8217;d prefer to see the head of that family sell pirate DVDs rather than see his children malnourished and not get the chance to. Hopefully as the economy goes, we&#8217;ll both get the future we want.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Stuart:

First I want you to excuse my very poor english and second welcome you and your family to my country. I will try now to make a few comments and bring you some important facts.

Peru imports more than 120 millions of blank disks per year and less than 10% are used for legal purpose. The rest is for piracy. Those poor people you see at &quot;El hueco&quot; are the frontline used by criminal bands that manages a US $ 100 million plus industry. Don&#039;t let they fool you. Piracy is not a question between poors and richs. It´s a business war between two very big contenders: big corporations and government on one side, and big criminals and corruption on the other side.

It´s true that we in Peru really don&#039;t feel sorry for the the Hollywood industry. And we should not, it´s a very healthy and millionaire industry. But we are very worried for the music and film peruvian industry, that it&#039;s almost non existent because of a weak market ruled by piracy and corruption. For us, the main consecuence of piracy it´s that peruvian movies are not even printed in dvd legally because the producers know that if they have a success, it will be fastly pirated by others. You can find peruvian movies in Argentina, Spain, even in the US, but not in Peru. Our best musicians, actors or talent emigrate to Spain or Argentine because they know that peruvian market is corrupted and they can do for living here, abroad they can be paid for their art.

As we killed our own cultural industry we are also killing our morality. Look what has happened to you in the entrance. In order to take photos you argue your civil rights, you cuote the law. But in the place you choose to do there is no law, there is only corruption. If you have tried to do the same by giving a 50 soles bill to the guy at the entrance you had succeed, believe me.

Reading your chronicles it looks that our piracy centers are tourist attractions and can be improved. That´s wrong. No matter how much money you can put in a crime, it´s still a crime, not a &quot;fancy established&quot; crime. So, there is no possible improvement for an illegal activity such as piracy in &quot;El Hueco&quot;.

Many of us are concerned about piracy, not because of Hollywood, I repeat, but because we want a civilized society and we need a regular music and movie market for our own artists, not a corrupted one. Please consider this.

Best Regards,

Mario]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stuart:</p>
<p>First I want you to excuse my very poor english and second welcome you and your family to my country. I will try now to make a few comments and bring you some important facts.</p>
<p>Peru imports more than 120 millions of blank disks per year and less than 10% are used for legal purpose. The rest is for piracy. Those poor people you see at &#8220;El hueco&#8221; are the frontline used by criminal bands that manages a US $ 100 million plus industry. Don&#8217;t let they fool you. Piracy is not a question between poors and richs. It´s a business war between two very big contenders: big corporations and government on one side, and big criminals and corruption on the other side.</p>
<p>It´s true that we in Peru really don&#8217;t feel sorry for the the Hollywood industry. And we should not, it´s a very healthy and millionaire industry. But we are very worried for the music and film peruvian industry, that it&#8217;s almost non existent because of a weak market ruled by piracy and corruption. For us, the main consecuence of piracy it´s that peruvian movies are not even printed in dvd legally because the producers know that if they have a success, it will be fastly pirated by others. You can find peruvian movies in Argentina, Spain, even in the US, but not in Peru. Our best musicians, actors or talent emigrate to Spain or Argentine because they know that peruvian market is corrupted and they can do for living here, abroad they can be paid for their art.</p>
<p>As we killed our own cultural industry we are also killing our morality. Look what has happened to you in the entrance. In order to take photos you argue your civil rights, you cuote the law. But in the place you choose to do there is no law, there is only corruption. If you have tried to do the same by giving a 50 soles bill to the guy at the entrance you had succeed, believe me.</p>
<p>Reading your chronicles it looks that our piracy centers are tourist attractions and can be improved. That´s wrong. No matter how much money you can put in a crime, it´s still a crime, not a &#8220;fancy established&#8221; crime. So, there is no possible improvement for an illegal activity such as piracy in &#8220;El Hueco&#8221;.</p>
<p>Many of us are concerned about piracy, not because of Hollywood, I repeat, but because we want a civilized society and we need a regular music and movie market for our own artists, not a corrupted one. Please consider this.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Mario</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Starrs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While being threatened I explained that taking photos of the entrance from the street is not illegal, that despite the market being private property, the street isn&#039;t.

They didn&#039;t listen. I now have dozens of stock-photos of peoples hands. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While being threatened I explained that taking photos of the entrance from the street is not illegal, that despite the market being private property, the street isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t listen. I now have dozens of stock-photos of peoples hands. <img src="http://enperublog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Vera</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel Vera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, it&#039;s not a secret why they are confrontational about photos. I gotta say I&#039;ve never been to El Hueco. I guess I should hurry if I still want to find cheap stuff before it turns into a regular (but thanks god more secure) shopping center.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, it&#8217;s not a secret why they are confrontational about photos. I gotta say I&#8217;ve never been to El Hueco. I guess I should hurry if I still want to find cheap stuff before it turns into a regular (but thanks god more secure) shopping center.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alejandro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love El Hueco, and everything about it: its unusual yet typically Peruvian genesis, the descent down those creepy stairs into a shoppers delight, and the fact it&#039;s located somewhere I usually pass whenever I&#039;m in Lima. I must admit, each time I am in El Hueco&#039;s bowels, I wonder how I&#039;d get out if there were a fire or earthquake. That doesn&#039;t keep me from visiting. Sometimes  I&#039;m just &#039;sapeando&#039;, looking around, but other times I conduct some hard bargaining for (pirate) DVDs and music. It will be very interesting if it really does become a fancier shopping center. Saludos!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love El Hueco, and everything about it: its unusual yet typically Peruvian genesis, the descent down those creepy stairs into a shoppers delight, and the fact it&#8217;s located somewhere I usually pass whenever I&#8217;m in Lima. I must admit, each time I am in El Hueco&#8217;s bowels, I wonder how I&#8217;d get out if there were a fire or earthquake. That doesn&#8217;t keep me from visiting. Sometimes  I&#8217;m just &#8216;sapeando&#8217;, looking around, but other times I conduct some hard bargaining for (pirate) DVDs and music. It will be very interesting if it really does become a fancier shopping center. Saludos!</p>
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